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I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:21 pm
by Kolchak
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:29 pm
by Murfreesboro
Several years ago, my older son didn't get accepted to his first choice college. He quipped at the time that he should have written an essay in which he said he was a black Lesbian trapped in a white male body. This stuff about the woman in Spokane is reminding me of that.
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:11 pm
by Andybev01
CBS has a headline about her story that read in part, "...parents accuse her if being white.'
Accuse?'
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:58 am
by Kolchak
Andybev01 wrote:CBS has a headline about her story that read in part, "...parents accuse her if being white.'
Accuse?'
It looks like this nut job has not spoken to any of her family in years. A real class act, this gal!

Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:00 pm
by MauEvig
Well; there are people who are transgendered but I think that's a whole other ball game right there. I say it's their business but I think silly things like gender identification are well, silly anyway. Then again I'm kind of against strictly established gender roles anyway, I say do what feels right inside. I remember once someone thought I was male on here. I actually thought that was a little hysterical.

I'm not the most feminine woman, but I'm still a woman.
Interestingly enough, culturally in Puerto Rico, if you feel deep inside that you are Native American there, they accept that you are Native American on the inside, even if you appear white. I find that kind of interesting.
Me...I'm short. There's no denying it. I'm 5'2". My Mom's even shorter at 4' 11" and my dad is 5' 5". I really hate being this short, but it's not like I can help it. People seem to respect taller people too, and taller people seem to be more successful. But life just isn't fair like that.
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:11 pm
by Spookymufu
MauEvig wrote:but I think silly things like gender identification are well, silly anyway.
WTF??
so you're cool with guy using a womans public bathroom and dressing rooms just because they "feel" like a woman on the inside?
Sorry but thats the craziest thing I've heard on this forum, and I lived through iHaunts nonsensical rants
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:54 pm
by Kolchak
Spookymufu wrote:MauEvig wrote:but I think silly things like gender identification are well, silly anyway.
WTF??
so you're cool with guy using a womans public bathroom and dressing rooms just because they "feel" like a woman on the inside?
Sorry but thats the craziest thing I've heard on this forum, and I lived through iHaunts nonsensical rants
Reminds me of the guy who said he thought of himself as a lesbian trapped in a mans body!

Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 10:53 pm
by MauEvig

Didn't I tell y'all I was crazy?
No I probably wouldn't feel comfortable about a man dressing up like a woman and walking into a woman's bathroom. That said, it's still their choice and I respect their opinion. I respect most people's opinion; as long as no one gets hurt.
What I really meant is that I don't think we should always expect women to be frail, helpless and child-bearers while men are always big, tough and burly. It's OK for a woman to be strong and independent, and it's OK for a man to ask for help. I don't feel that we should force specific expectations on people based on their gender. So what if a girl wants to play sports, action figures or video games, or a boy wants to play with Barbie dolls or dress up? It's taboo, and out of the statis quo, but I don't really have a problem with it. In the end, men and women should work together, not against each other, and not placed into little societal roles that are restricting.
But that's merely an opinion of course. I support gender equality.
Yeah my opinions are a little odd; but oh well.

Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 2:56 am
by Andybev01
"There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.!"
-sir Nigel Powers
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:41 am
by Murfreesboro
Mau, I raised two sons and a daughter, and I had a couple of reactions to your post:
1. Anyone who thinks women are "frail, helpless, and child-bearers" is being oxymoronic. If you are frail and helpless you cannot bear children, because pregnancy and childbirth are among the most physically taxing things any human being can do.
2. We live in a culture that celebrates little girls who enjoy activities or display character traits stereotypically associated with boys. The reverse is absolutely not the case. Woman speak with pride about their little girls who are "tomboys," but I have yet to hear anyone boast about their little boy because he is "just so girly," likes to "wear my make-up and play with Barbies," etc. People don't brag about that. They get concerned about it. Maybe they shouldn't in a perfect world, but that's the reality. The conclusion I draw? Being masculine, and stereotypically masculine, is still the reigning ideal. Women are celebrated to the extent they conform to masculine behaviors. Katniss Everdeen is the hero of The Hunger Games, not her sister Primm.
My daughter's favorite book, so far, has been Jane Eyre. I think she likes it so much because Jane Eyre is strong, but in a completely feminine way. She doesn't go out and hunt wild game or battle men, but she is strong-willed and uncompromising in her ideals. She resists the cultural expectations that press on her and, in the end, she gets the life she wants. After my daughter finished that book she begged me to find her more books like Jane Eyre. You'd think, being an English PhD, that I could do that. But I couldn't. I can't think of a single book that is like Jane Eyre. That type of feminine heroism is unique to Bronte's novel, as far as I can tell.
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:10 pm
by Spookymufu
MauEvig wrote:What I really meant is that I don't think we should always expect women to be frail, helpless and child-bearers while men are always big, tough and burly. It's OK for a woman to be strong and independent, and it's OK for a man to ask for help. I don't feel that we should force specific expectations on people based on their gender.
this I can totally agree with.......
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:02 pm
by Andybev01
We can ask for help but do we have to ask for directions?
I don't want to have to turn in my man card.

Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:29 pm
by Kolchak
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 6:55 pm
by MauEvig
Don't worry y'all, you don't have to ask for directions. We brave women are strong enough to overcome that for you!
On a serious note, I get what you're saying Murf. I guess my point is that society seems to be so overly protective of women, that they can't handle themselves and need a man to do all sorts of heavy lifting, and especially if one is pregnant! I shocked one of my co-workers once when I walked down the aisle to stock a 50 lb bag of dog food.
Re: I Identify Myself as Tall.
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:13 pm
by Kolchak
Some Real Man quotes....
Q. How many real men does it take to change a light bulb?
A. None. real men aren't afraid of the dark.
Q. How many real men does it take to cross a river?
A. 100. 99 to build the suspension bridge, and 1 to drive the 18 wheeler across.
Q. Why did the real man cross the road?
A. None of your dang business!